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now leading to questions over the president's handling of foreign policy and the administrations truthfulness to the american people. to reporreport the united states diplomats in libya asked the obama administration repeatedly for additional security right up until the september 11, 2012 attacks. house oversight committee chairman darrell ice looking to secretary of state hillary clinton for answers. telling congressmen issa the extra resources are being denied despite firebombings and online death threats. vice presidential nominee paul ryan seizing onnthe commission to launch attacks at the democratic ticket. >> feature if you turn on the ty you can see that the obama foreign-policy is unraveling before our eyes. it's not just an isolated incident where we lost four americans in libya. that's tragic. but it is part of a bigger story of the unraveling of this agenda all over the world. we have distanced our ally, israel, we are not advancing our interests in the middle east, and the president is promising we will have these devastating cuts to our national defense. ashley: meanwhile the whi
now leading to questions over the president's handling of foreign policy and the administrations truthfulness to the american people. to reporreport the united states diplomats in libya asked the obama administration repeatedly for additional security right up until the september 11, 2012 attacks. house oversight committee chairman darrell ice looking to secretary of state hillary clinton for answers. telling congressmen issa the extra resources are being denied despite firebombings and online...
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. >> and i think that biden is going to want to talk foreign policy and i think the polls have shown that the president's doing good on that, not as well as he was, that gap has narrowed with the events in the middle east, but still, we killed bin laden and bringing troops home. it will be interesting how team romney respond on foreign policy. >> i don't know if he tries to go too hard on foreign policy in big trouble because of what happened in benghazi, ryan will use that against him and i think damage him very badly. >> but ryan is a rookie on foreign policy, that's not his area of expertise and i've heard him and he sounds more callow than on the budget in some of these things. and it's interesting to see if he's done a full emerges on that and does pretty well. >> i'd like to see them get into the battle what happened with the super committee and the deficit last year. joe biden said last week paul ryan walked away from the committee and the details would be fun to listen to. >> ryan has a good answer to that, how the president sabotaged it. more to come in the second half hour,
. >> and i think that biden is going to want to talk foreign policy and i think the polls have shown that the president's doing good on that, not as well as he was, that gap has narrowed with the events in the middle east, but still, we killed bin laden and bringing troops home. it will be interesting how team romney respond on foreign policy. >> i don't know if he tries to go too hard on foreign policy in big trouble because of what happened in benghazi, ryan will use that against...
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policy as it relates to the arab spring. i think if the governor wants to, he can use this format, which is open ended on the economy, talk about the economy, but also about american strength and how that can or will be affected in the future economically. so i wouldn't be surprised at all if what you saw in that op-ed that governor romney wrote for the "wall street journal" doesn't become part of a response to a larnler conversation about not just economics in america, but the economic projection, the values projection and foreign policy pro jex. >> let me ask you about the deb krzyzewskied. it's going to be six segments. the moderator has some ability to let it go and bring the conversation more broadly. breathe more than we've seen in the past. does that favor one person or the other? >> no, i don't think so. i think as you know, who goes first was determined by coin flip and there's a slight advantage of having your opponent go first. in the opening, romney won the coin toss because president obama goes first and that me
policy as it relates to the arab spring. i think if the governor wants to, he can use this format, which is open ended on the economy, talk about the economy, but also about american strength and how that can or will be affected in the future economically. so i wouldn't be surprised at all if what you saw in that op-ed that governor romney wrote for the "wall street journal" doesn't become part of a response to a larnler conversation about not just economics in america, but the...
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they've tried to hang onto the economy and foreign policy. they don't -- they're not able to hang onto anything except, of course, for this stereotype that he keeps reinforcing as the rich, out of touch guy. i think going into the debate, like that's his biggest hurdle is to not say anything else that really grounds that stereotype and grounds that image that the american people have for him. >> so no mention of the 47%? anna marie cog and jonathan capehart, thank you, both. >>> next, do the math, mr. ryan. please, just do the math. stay with us. >> lowering tax rates by broadening the tax base works, and you can -- >> but i have to -- >> let me -- >> you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't have the time -- it would take me too lock to go through all of the math. that was me still taking insulin with a vial and syringe. me, explaining what i was doing at breakfast. and me discovering novolog mix 70/30 flexpen. flexpen is pre-filled with your pre-mix insulin. dial the exact dose. inject by pushing a button. no vials, syringes or cooler
they've tried to hang onto the economy and foreign policy. they don't -- they're not able to hang onto anything except, of course, for this stereotype that he keeps reinforcing as the rich, out of touch guy. i think going into the debate, like that's his biggest hurdle is to not say anything else that really grounds that stereotype and grounds that image that the american people have for him. >> so no mention of the 47%? anna marie cog and jonathan capehart, thank you, both. >>>...
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we're talking foreign policy. this is an area where the president, with regard to the election, felt pretty comfortable. and felt like he wouldn't have -- there wouldn't necessarily be an opening for the romney camp. does this give the romney camp a legitimate opening? >> no. i don't think so. because i've been ambassador in a region where it's been very volatile. these are bureaucratic decisions. and ambassador stevens made the decision to go to benghazi. what problem may emerge here, he went to benghazi with inadequate security. we have to understand that our embassies are not protected and our ambassadors are not protected by the marines or by u.s. personnel all the time. they're protected by the local government officials that provide that security. and chris was known as someone who didn't like the envelope of security around him. i think the real issue here is not so much whether or not the president or the administration was at fault, but whether or not the senior management level at the state department di
we're talking foreign policy. this is an area where the president, with regard to the election, felt pretty comfortable. and felt like he wouldn't have -- there wouldn't necessarily be an opening for the romney camp. does this give the romney camp a legitimate opening? >> no. i don't think so. because i've been ambassador in a region where it's been very volatile. these are bureaucratic decisions. and ambassador stevens made the decision to go to benghazi. what problem may emerge here, he...
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not about foreign policy. the mormon identity and i want to also point out i have been busy on this but struck by it. this is wednesday's washington post and my wife pointed it out to me. a story up here at the top. at u.n. the president issues a challenge. here is the lead story. ohio florida give obama an edge. here is the side-bar story. for obama the buckeye state maybe a bulls eye. my wife turned to me and said well, i guess the race is over according to the washington post. am i overreacting to this? and more importantly is my wife overreact on this? >> reporting on the poll there's has been discussion about the polling and whether the polling is oversampling democrats. to come extent political reporters report on polls and that drives the narrate ives. the biggest problem mitt romney has in terms of media bias is less an idelogical bias and the attacked that they are covering him as if he is losing. they never covered george w. bush like he was going to lose. >> you look like you are going to come out o
not about foreign policy. the mormon identity and i want to also point out i have been busy on this but struck by it. this is wednesday's washington post and my wife pointed it out to me. a story up here at the top. at u.n. the president issues a challenge. here is the lead story. ohio florida give obama an edge. here is the side-bar story. for obama the buckeye state maybe a bulls eye. my wife turned to me and said well, i guess the race is over according to the washington post. am i...
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policy and national security. and he has proven adept at walking the tight rope at great heights by refusing to take a stand on any issue of any substance at any time this entire campaign cycle. the problem with this clown show is that while it's been entertaining, the ticket price is also very high. as the gop verges on going from grand old party to tired old side show americans are denied a functioning two-party system, a robust debate that is at the very heart of our democracy. so, governor romney, kindly set aside the youtube clips, the you didn't build thats, and the conservative dog whistles that guess what all of us can hear, put up a good fight, an honest fight, in the end politics may still be a circus, but the country deserves more than just peanuts. thanks again to kurt, richard, karen and michael. that is all for now. i will see you back here tomorrow for post-debate analysis at noon eastern, 9:00 a.m. pacific when joined by savannah guthrie, former governor ed rendell, professorer michael eric dyson a
policy and national security. and he has proven adept at walking the tight rope at great heights by refusing to take a stand on any issue of any substance at any time this entire campaign cycle. the problem with this clown show is that while it's been entertaining, the ticket price is also very high. as the gop verges on going from grand old party to tired old side show americans are denied a functioning two-party system, a robust debate that is at the very heart of our democracy. so, governor...
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>> there will be an entire foreign policy debate to have this discussion. will have that discussion in the debate. it is going to be a close race. we have said that from the very first day. we will go on campaigning in the next debate. he has a clear vision of where he wants to take this country. this audit testing mitt romney continue to try to. -- defend his positions. but steady thing won the debate? >> i think the president won the debate, clearly. the economy, taxes, jobs, medicare. governor romney continues to be on the defense. the president was calm it was friendly, and romney was testy. our job was to lay out a very clear vision about the difference between us and mitt romney. that is what we did tonight. whether you want to give us stock. for doing that or not, that is not important. you are sitting out there on your couch in charlotte or denver. >> [indiscernible] >> i don't think there is a defense to it. what's what do you think of their schedules for the next couple of days? the philip ohio slipping out of their grasp? >> we feel great about o
>> there will be an entire foreign policy debate to have this discussion. will have that discussion in the debate. it is going to be a close race. we have said that from the very first day. we will go on campaigning in the next debate. he has a clear vision of where he wants to take this country. this audit testing mitt romney continue to try to. -- defend his positions. but steady thing won the debate? >> i think the president won the debate, clearly. the economy, taxes, jobs,...
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the campaign says romney will give a major foreign policy speech this week. romney is taking his message to the air waves. >> i think they want to do their best to keep the people of america from understanding exactly what happened. we expect candor, we expect transparen transparency, particularly to terrorism. >> it's hard to understand how mitt romney thinks this strategy is going to work. romney was hammered for his initial response to the attack in the middle east. he blamed the president for sympathizing with protesters. romney is a 14-point disadvantage for terrorist issues. romney can't pick a strategy and stick with it. the campaign, they used to be all about jobs. the romney slogan was obama isn't working. but then all of a sudden, the c campaign was about obama care and the slogan was "repeal and replace." that didn't work so romney moved on to "we did build that." republicans spent a night at their own convention talking about the new strategy, but that didn't work either. so recently they went with "are you better off." but now they are abandoning
the campaign says romney will give a major foreign policy speech this week. romney is taking his message to the air waves. >> i think they want to do their best to keep the people of america from understanding exactly what happened. we expect candor, we expect transparen transparency, particularly to terrorism. >> it's hard to understand how mitt romney thinks this strategy is going to work. romney was hammered for his initial response to the attack in the middle east. he blamed the...
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policy address at the virginia military snout. >> a federal judge said the transit system must allow and to equate muslim radicals with savages. they sued for the right to display the ads and they up in subway stations and must be displayed here no later than 5:00 p.m. on monday and we spoke to the attorney for the blogger who sued to put up the ad and he joined us by phone earlier tonight. >> in a civil society, if you object to speech, the response is not to engage in violence but more speech and we held the protection of the first amendment in the united states and the judge upheld that in a ruling today and that is the correct way to go. >> metro spokesman said that the metro will comply with the order and the ads will go up this weekend. >>> more turbulence for american airlines. it's pulling 48 of the 757s to make repairs. after several seats came loose mid-air on three different flights and three different days. fifty flights were cancelled, 34 today and anna coinman tells us that the issue is having an impact across the country. >> reporter: multiple mid-air scares prompting
policy address at the virginia military snout. >> a federal judge said the transit system must allow and to equate muslim radicals with savages. they sued for the right to display the ads and they up in subway stations and must be displayed here no later than 5:00 p.m. on monday and we spoke to the attorney for the blogger who sued to put up the ad and he joined us by phone earlier tonight. >> in a civil society, if you object to speech, the response is not to engage in violence but...
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the question is how they will try to insert libya foreign policy into a domestic policy debate. >> it's supposed to break all kinds of records. maybe 50 million people will be watching tonight. a lot of those people unemployed, very frustrated with their own lives. the other question, of course, who will make the better case on improving the economy? >> that's right. economy is issue number one, as you well known, suzanne, and president obama has been been able to make up some gains against mitt romney on this issue. here's the real question. can they appeal to those middle class voters that both folks are fighting over. not make the debate about themselves, but about who can best soe their problems. mitt romney just needs to make the case that he can do better than the president. the president will be trying to frame that debate that do you want a return to bush era policy that is got us into the mess? both candidates need to be aware that they're not simply attacking the other guy, but proposing new plans, giving those undecided swing voters at home, particularly members that squeeze
the question is how they will try to insert libya foreign policy into a domestic policy debate. >> it's supposed to break all kinds of records. maybe 50 million people will be watching tonight. a lot of those people unemployed, very frustrated with their own lives. the other question, of course, who will make the better case on improving the economy? >> that's right. economy is issue number one, as you well known, suzanne, and president obama has been been able to make up some gains...
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can any of these foreign policy questions and whether or not the administration bungled the response after the attacks, the horrible tragedy in benghazi, or the israeli relationship and whether mitt romney is correct that the administration has thrown israel under the bus, can any of these foreign policy questions come into it or does this have to be under the format strictly domestic policy. >> i think only if chip herrer asks the question. if romney were to launch an attack on libya or launch an attack on the israeli question, he would look like he was trying to score political points in a debate where he's supposed to be talking about the economy. one of the rules i have for the debates you don't fight with the moderator and you don't invade the other person's space. >> a violation of the newt gingrich rule which was to completely go after maria bartiromo and john harwood at the cnbc debate in michigan and make -- make them the target. >> he was looking for right wing base voters who hate the media. i don't think that's the situation here. when you fight with the moderator and som
can any of these foreign policy questions and whether or not the administration bungled the response after the attacks, the horrible tragedy in benghazi, or the israeli relationship and whether mitt romney is correct that the administration has thrown israel under the bus, can any of these foreign policy questions come into it or does this have to be under the format strictly domestic policy. >> i think only if chip herrer asks the question. if romney were to launch an attack on libya or...
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he gave a foreign policy speech, this monday, i am afraid it's a little bit late. when we were seized in the libya story and the american embassies were under attack from tunisia to indonesia, that was the time that he should have given it. now, he will be giving it. i think it's a great negatism but tell take the focus off the economy, which is where romney was scoring so heavily. he has to come back to the economy. stay on these points. he has to be a little bit wary because obama's going to come into the second debate, with low expectations and the second thing about this is, the second debate is going to be in a town hall that. places to obama's strengths. the relation with the audience. he has a way of connecting -- he did in the past. romney has trouble with that. if you remember the clinton/bush i debate, clinton won outright. so romney has to prepare for low expectations for obam awhich will help obama. he has to practice in a forum, in which he can relax with the audience. however, he has one great advantage, romney, he has the facts on his side and the ar
he gave a foreign policy speech, this monday, i am afraid it's a little bit late. when we were seized in the libya story and the american embassies were under attack from tunisia to indonesia, that was the time that he should have given it. now, he will be giving it. i think it's a great negatism but tell take the focus off the economy, which is where romney was scoring so heavily. he has to come back to the economy. stay on these points. he has to be a little bit wary because obama's going to...
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i think obama has done pretty well on foreign policy pip don't think he's made bad calls. you can argue about it, but he's made tough calls on using these drones. he's had to kill a lot of people. he's been tough-minded about it. my guess is that eisenhower would have approved of the job that obama's done so far. i think romney, you know, he's never been president. how do you know? being governor of massachusetts doesn't really prepare few your that. romney seems to be a pretty sober-minded guy. he has reasonably good judgment as far as we can tell as a businessman. it's hard to know. the thing about the presidency is until you are president, you don't know. nothing really prepares you for it. >> thank you so much. appreciate your time this sunday afternoon. >> thank you, craig. >>> and part of a bridge collapse during 405 construction. is carmageddon a sequel for california drivers? is. >>> plus a lot of new polls are out. we're checking who's in the lead in ohio and iowa. we'll bring it to you on the other side of this break. you're watching msnbc, in case you hadn't hea
i think obama has done pretty well on foreign policy pip don't think he's made bad calls. you can argue about it, but he's made tough calls on using these drones. he's had to kill a lot of people. he's been tough-minded about it. my guess is that eisenhower would have approved of the job that obama's done so far. i think romney, you know, he's never been president. how do you know? being governor of massachusetts doesn't really prepare few your that. romney seems to be a pretty sober-minded...
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but i bet you didn't know that the republican foreign policy adviser randy shunman played joe biden for sarah palin. joining us tonight to discuss stand-ins and debate prep ahead of wednesday's match-up between president obama and governor mitt romney is my friend and colleague jill alper. in 2006, jill was named as the top democratic political strategist in the country! she's a media consultant. she helps to train candidates for debates. she was my debate coach and she's coming to us from oak park michigan. welcome back inside "the war room." >> thank you. hello, governor. you were a great palin by the way. >> jennifer: you are too funny. it was fun. did i become a paleontologist but thanks to your help, too. do you think that we're always talking about how the stand stand-ins are selected. did the obama campaign choose senator ker troy stand in for mitt romney because he's also sort of a tall, white, rich guy from massachusetts? >> we both know john kerry well and yes, all of those things are true but john kerry is also really smart and a great debater. we saw that firsthand in 2004.
but i bet you didn't know that the republican foreign policy adviser randy shunman played joe biden for sarah palin. joining us tonight to discuss stand-ins and debate prep ahead of wednesday's match-up between president obama and governor mitt romney is my friend and colleague jill alper. in 2006, jill was named as the top democratic political strategist in the country! she's a media consultant. she helps to train candidates for debates. she was my debate coach and she's coming to us from oak...
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i think that also, while obama has his failures in foreign policy, they are not ones that romney can easily pick up on. >> he could always, i would imagine, in a debate turn on i killed osama bin laden. that is an undisputable vote winner for the american public. >> one of my friends on facebook was joking that he should have -- they should have cremated osama bin laden, should have placed the urn of ashes on the podium beside him. i think that on the national security front right now, obama is looking pretty good. but a month is a long time. plenty can still go wrong. iran can blow up. european economy can blow up. >> in the context, though, of the four-year tenure of his presidency, foreign policy's been an area of expertise for a long time. how do you rate it as a president? he's certainly done it in a very different way to george bush, for example. >> i think that in general, he's been pretty strong. his big mistake, i think, was the surge in afghanistan. he wouldn't acknowledge that but i think a lot of people around him would. on syria, i think he's widely regarded as kind of b
i think that also, while obama has his failures in foreign policy, they are not ones that romney can easily pick up on. >> he could always, i would imagine, in a debate turn on i killed osama bin laden. that is an undisputable vote winner for the american public. >> one of my friends on facebook was joking that he should have -- they should have cremated osama bin laden, should have placed the urn of ashes on the podium beside him. i think that on the national security front right...
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this is a weak foreign policy. with terrible results. which makes us less safe. >> chris: let me pick up on a couple of those. syria, governor romney would not put u.s. troops on the ground in syria and, the red line is where barack obama's is, there is no big difference -- >> sure there is, iran, the biggest threat we have. the different is credibility. the president's iran policy lacks credibty. what i mean when i say that is, the ayatollahs in iran, they have to make a decision to stop pursuing a nuclear weapon, and, pursue a peaceful resolution. but they are no doing that. and i would argue that is because the president doesn't have credibility. he fought and resisted tough sanctions, to the last moment and he was silent on the green revolution while e we had a chance for a peaceful up rising for democracy that cracked down. when he puts the military option on the table he does it in a way that doesn't have credibility, baugh his administration sends out mixed signals such as, they are more about an israeli attack -- >> let me give y
this is a weak foreign policy. with terrible results. which makes us less safe. >> chris: let me pick up on a couple of those. syria, governor romney would not put u.s. troops on the ground in syria and, the red line is where barack obama's is, there is no big difference -- >> sure there is, iran, the biggest threat we have. the different is credibility. the president's iran policy lacks credibty. what i mean when i say that is, the ayatollahs in iran, they have to make a decision...
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peter, real quickly though, governor romney is going to be giving a big foreign policy speech coming up after the weekend? >> reporter: that's scheduled to take place on monday back here fittingly in virginia. it will be at vmi on monday. it's an opportunity to attack the president again and dominate romney's readiness to lead. this is something they were prepared to talk about at the debate, supposed to be a debate about domestic issues. they thought there was a potential during the final 15 to 20 minutes when the conversation turned to the role of governing for mitt romney to perhaps be able to attack the president's mishandling in their view of foreign policy issues. since that didn't take place they hope to make that point this coming monday. >> peter alexander traveling with the romney camp in virginia. peter, thank you. >>> two days after the first presidential debates and democrats are still having this bit of a hangover as republicans try to continue seizing on wednesday night's momentum. it was a big night for mitt romney, but will that first face-off really affect how undec
peter, real quickly though, governor romney is going to be giving a big foreign policy speech coming up after the weekend? >> reporter: that's scheduled to take place on monday back here fittingly in virginia. it will be at vmi on monday. it's an opportunity to attack the president again and dominate romney's readiness to lead. this is something they were prepared to talk about at the debate, supposed to be a debate about domestic issues. they thought there was a potential during the...
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policy, he's moving into an area that the president believes he's stronger and foreign policy is one of those areas where the incumbent has greater advantages and we will a he hear it in the upcoming debates. g.m. is alive and obama that will work to the disadvantage of romney. he wants to talk about the economy, which i think is what he sees as the administration's weakenings. the more time he spends on foreign policy it takes him away from his core message. >> eliot: the issue of iran and the bomb that was in the news during the u.n. general assembly meeting, where are we on that. the president seems to be inching towards a demonstration towards a lack of patience, and the israeli view is that the time runs short. i mean, is this a matter of months where we need some resolution? >> well, i think there is some makings of a deal but it's going to take time, and to work on this. an example of where romney has rhetoric on iran, but when pressed what is his bottom line, it's similar if not identical president obama. >> eliot: p.j. crowley as always, thank you so much for your wisdom. >>
policy, he's moving into an area that the president believes he's stronger and foreign policy is one of those areas where the incumbent has greater advantages and we will a he hear it in the upcoming debates. g.m. is alive and obama that will work to the disadvantage of romney. he wants to talk about the economy, which i think is what he sees as the administration's weakenings. the more time he spends on foreign policy it takes him away from his core message. >> eliot: the issue of iran...
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what he's done is increased the antagonism toward america there by having a failed foreign policy. and harry truman used to say, "the buck stops here" talking about the presidency. and the buck should stop at the president's desk. he has created that climate. he has created the anti-american sentiment. and he was the one that was trying to sell us a bill of goods that al-qaeda no longer -- al-qaeda no longer had any strength, that terrorism had been defeated in the middle east. this president has failed to do what he was trying to convince us he had done. that's why i say that's a problem. the laziness part, in my opinion, comes from his failure to stay up to date on the intelligence briefings that he -- that people prepare for. the evidence is that he missed almost 60% of the face-to-face briefings with the cia and substituted for that a quick skimming of what -- what the summery piece of paper on his ipad. there's no substitute for that discussion for a president to be up to date. in my opinion, it's the most important half hour of the day. >> let me ask you, what's going on righ
what he's done is increased the antagonism toward america there by having a failed foreign policy. and harry truman used to say, "the buck stops here" talking about the presidency. and the buck should stop at the president's desk. he has created that climate. he has created the anti-american sentiment. and he was the one that was trying to sell us a bill of goods that al-qaeda no longer -- al-qaeda no longer had any strength, that terrorism had been defeated in the middle east. this...